One defense attorney after the next, tried unsuccessfully to punch holes through her testimony. She participated in terrible crimes, and then left her child with the people who she knew committed them.Then she flipped on those people too.Who could trust Linda? Low level of intelligence: thinking a socialist was going to turn the United States into an idealist utopia where college was free, black people got reparations and Marijuana grew wild for all to partake. At the age of 16, Drouin dropped out of high school and got married, and soon after, divorced. Yes, it is common for lawyers to try to project a favorable image of their witnesses, especially a witness as 'key' to the case as Kasabian. No big deal. Dreath saidWhen Patti Tate asks Good why her sister had to die. Defense counsel were not 'the Dream Team'. In late June of 1969, she attempted a reconciliation with. Why any of them were picked isn't really relevant is it ? What if she wouldn't have testified? Linda basically went through a couple of year speed bump in the Big picture. Maybe some of you can pound beers everyday and do your bowls and never have a bad thought. "Also as stated somewhere earlier, it didn't need some bogus story about a Lebanese actor to cover any Linda murder mania, not when 2 of the murderers had previously told police and other witnesses that she hadn't killed anyone.Given that no one was charged with even the attempted murder of or conspiracy to murder Saladin Nader, one might have to conclude you're chucking exhibits from that box of red herrings again.."The problem is Grim, Bugliosi painted a portrait of her as being different. Linda Darlene Kasabian was born on June 21, 1949. Her testimony eventually led to their conviction. Or was she there to cheek, or kester the comatose, old duff's meds? We can listen to Schrek and George and the others who came later claiming to have talked to everyone around the actual killers.Or we can listen to the animals who actually did it?????? She did drugs with her child and basically spent her whole life making sure that her child would have the most stressful and illegal life possible. When this second marriage hit the rocks, Linda. The more I've listened to people that were around and active in that period, the more I've watched and read, the more I can see that there was a wind blowing that caught many in it's slipstream and so many young people with similar upbringings had similar feelings and ended up in many different directions, some exciting and 'positive,' some not.Even some men that fought in Vietnam committed atrocities that they would never have perpetrated elsewhere or in any other situation; neither were there any clues in their upbringings as to some of these things happening. So that's who I listen to. AND were there NOT enough "pigs" in Chatsworth ? Pictured: Kasabian running errands on Tuesday View gallery The. Because the logical conclusion of your implication is that he was obsessed with "getting" Charles Manson, even to the extent that he would frame an innocent man and see him rot in jail for life. Mine is that Linda left her child with a group of people she knew were capable of murder to save her own ass. That gave me an insight that Bugliosi & Gentry's book doesn't even hint at, though it initially inspired it. Linda then traveled to Boston, where she married a. Yes. In view of the unbelievably savage nature of these murders, and in view of the fact that hardly anything at all was taken from either the Tate or the LaBianca residences, and in view of all the other evidence in this case, including the statements of Manson, Watson, and Atkins that I have just referred to, a conclusion that these seven murders were perpetrated to help carry out some burglary or robbery would not seem to be consistent with the evidence in this case. Her parents divorced and remarried when Linda was still young. I think after I began to beleive it was extraordinarily difficult to connect Tate and LaBianca on any other theory you are sort of left with HS or something like it. In his testimony Clem part corroborated Linda's account and Susan part did to both Richard Caballero and the Grand jury and then later when she was writing her books.and yet, when one looks at where that apartment was, it seems like another kill two birds with one stone job. Later, Robert Kasabian contacted Linda and invited her to meet him in Los Angeles. I think part of where our paths parallel instead of cross is training. Who Is Linda Kasabian? [Off course he goes adding a third objection. I would have testified without a deal" translates when the evidence is revealed to 'I'm not talking even if the sky falls (but I will for immunity)". When I put this thing together while the high school stuff was fun, for me the heart of the matter was the 'Odyssey' article. I can still see Bill Nelson (Molesto)'s banner headline when he did the Lady Dangerous report. It'll take a while for me to digest it. Bill Kurtis can make it sound like the best name ever. Squeaky Fromme, David K Frazier. I doubt it. 2 facts will always remain, namely that Tonya was safe and returned safely and that Linda set out out to retrieve her and did so.even in the worst of circumstances- people can make their own fate / But not Linda. Dreath saidI think what might have happened with Atkins instead of Kasabian is you might not be talking as much about Helter Skelter as a motivePossibly. A British rock band is named after her too. She had four children. If Fleischmann actually did come up with that plan to knock Atkins out of the last seat in the life boat it was brilliant. The problem of course is that Bugliosi does not want that answer. March 1970 to Linda Kasabian, father unknown. She was roped up, struggling with it according to Susan.Even as you're describing all this, even if it all took place simultaneously or bit by bit, the time frame could not have been long. Both accused of being racists who will spark a race war. Saint said: The real Losers in the entire saga are the victims and their families. I felt like Million dollar Mafiaoso Attorney as I pranced into the Lord's House for some good old American made justice.Thank You Clem: I won't tell ANYONE it's the clothes that make you judicially savvy. As long as that question hung in the air unanswered, the jury would have a hard time believing Linda Kasabian and Bugliosi's claim that out of all these people who were fully ready, willing and able to murder for Charles Manson, there was one out of the group who happened to be an angel who thought it was simply a "creepy crawl mission".Not only did he answer that question, there was an entire scenario where not only was she asked and had a weapon put in her hand, but one in which she also proved to be a hero and thwart the plan and save a life! She was initially shocked that they'd killed people for money. It came up from a variety of sources, some of whom weren't even in the Family. It was through Charles Melton that she came into contact with Catherine Gypsy Share, a member of Manson family. Ruth's Mum wasn't in agreement with Dean and his changes. She. In fact, his case is better against her then Van Houten at that pointAccording to his book, nothing said in the grand jury could be used against Atkins and nothing she said could be used against her co defendants. Bob was living in Topanga Canyon with a man named Charles Melton. ME thinks there might be a REAL story there. I meant that they claim to know the "Real motive" My apologies George. Dreath saidThat's what makes this incident get a 'don't make no sense' label from meIt made sense to me. I embarrass myself when I insult anyone let along groups of people. That's why she denied any knowledge of the LaBianca murders, but accidentally slipped up and supplied information helpful with Tate. It is usually something unrelated to what they are being asked like Krenwinkels Sharon wasnt supposed to be there comment I read about somewhere. Her Other Children Bob Kasabian Here is an example. The failed policies of passive resistance, marching and speeches must give way to the use of violence to bring about social change because the pigs are using violence against us. ?I do not get it at all.. there is a human side to this and there are a couple of people to pity who got involved with Charlie. document.write(''); Ok- Ill be devils advocate.Where does light fusioninto anything with Linda? It means nothing moreExcept that his 'opinion' was that of the prosecutor that went towards the securing of the conviction. Only the main core of 20 to 30 stayed consistently. Then I put it together with Irving Kanarek bringing June Emmers down to testify as to what a liar Linda was and some of the other things the defence exposed about her and despite Robert's point about the guy that spent 30 years inside because his lawyer never had his gun checked to see whether the bullets matched, I find it extremely difficult to believe that she was going to lie about the licence, especially as it was so easy to check on it and it would have severely dented her credibility. Anyone know an expert on 1966 Ambassadors? All is good. Her marriage later fell apart. His questioning of her at the Grand jury didn't minimize the horrors of what she was about. Charlie as well. He said he surmised it was the reason. But if anyone has known for the last 47 years, they ain't been talking. She swore before a Grand Jury, that under the direction of Charlie Manson, she stabbed actress Sharon Tate to death and had participated in the murder of music teacher Gary Hinman.During her grand jury testimony, Atkins testified that there was no limit to what . If Kasabian was what you are implying here, Nader would be dead and with Clem and Sadie as accomplices, no one would be any the wiser. Sgt. I can't see what some of those details would substantially change. ALL this trying to make sense out of the Helter Skelter race war reminds ME of the "Gott'a KILL the Commie Gooks on the other side of the world" MOTIVE for the Vietnam War.The worst Communists were ONLY 90 miles off Florida and posed a REAL threat to America. But wait a minute Grim, Atkins never mentions this event to the Grand Jury, not a word. Her mother, Joyce, remarried too; however, Linda did not get along well with her stepfather Jake Byrd, who according to her treated her mother and herself badly. She let the cat out of the bag about so many other things. The mission, ladies and gentlemen, the mission of these defendants on both nights, was murder. Thank you for this post- very interesting and thought provoking. How many of us became murderers or aided and abetted murder? Grim, Ok, but quoting Bugliosi is sort of like quoting one of us. The only possible explanation, is that on that particular day she forgot it back on the ranch and only brought her library card.Give the absolutely weak explanation for her being involved by the prosecutor. But this has always been subject to alteration, progression, sideways steps, change, being unwise, you know, life. Manson's Lost Girls: Directed by Leslie Libman. I for one would never accuse Bugliosi of improperly 'coaching' a witness or eliciting perjured testimony. ID of S.E. Like how about BILL Clinton. So if I appear to be defending her or anyone else that is generally presented as unsavoury, it's because I think there should be a balance to anyone spoken about.Even Charles Watson. Fresh meat! Atkins remembers seeing Pat struggle with Abigail but can't recall the exact sequence of things where she was concerned or how she ended up crawling on the lawn as they were about to leave. "Charlie entered into my headand Tanya was there and I was afraid for her life," Mrs. Kasabian said. So if Kasabian stumbles on what he wants and says they arrived at the Polanski residence "4-5 hours after dark". Ask yourself: if her story is not accurate why didn't she just tell the truth? ]MR.KANAREK: He is arguing with the witness, your Honor. After that it is Bugliosi, not Kasabian who is testifying. So according to you people who defend an alleged mass murderer and those who support Trump are the same "idiots". If it comes out that a witness has two convictions, one for bestiality involving a local horse and the other for sexually abusing one of their siblings, the other side will lean hard on that. As long as that question hung in the air unanswered, the jury would have a hard time believing Linda Kasabian and Bugliosi's claim that out of all these people who were fully ready, willing and able to murder for Charles Manson, there was one out of the group who happened to be an angel who thought it was simply a "creepy crawl mission" you're on swampy ground because Linda isn't the only one that didn't know what was going on that night. Her testimony was considered to be the most dramatic segment of the very long trial, and it received an unprecedented amount of news media coverage. Right off the bat, any person with the capacity for critical thinking should question that. With her marriage falling apart, she decided to move in with the family on their dilapidated Spahn's Ranch. people who assert their opinions as biblical truths.I am not picking on him, but just by way of example, Saint said."The real Losers in this entire sage are the victims and their families".First of all, no offense but that is a "duh" statement to the point of being a cliche.Second, it is said that you can't compare pain any more than you can compare love. Later, in an effort to give their marriage another chance, she joined Robert Kasabian in Hippie Hangouts of Topanga Canyon, Los Angeles, California where he was friends with Charles Blackbeard Melton. But NOW, "drunkenness" is considered to be the by-product of a DISEASE. His case went like this:"Charles Manson sent out from the fires of hell at Spahn Ranch three heartless, bloodthirsty robots and--unfortunately for him--one human being, the hippie girl Linda Kasabian." Horrified, Linda looked him in the eye and said "sorry," just before he collapsed. Linda on the other hand, understood it on a level but it hadn't taken a major grip on her consciousness. (Four) - $1 bills; serial #L713312991, #FS70065680, #G10854391G, #R74795353B.She didn't- from the Police Property Report (from the coroner)- the wallet is there, his glasses are not (sorry, couldn't resist). Four or 5 hours after it became dark? I remember reading it over at the now dearly departed Cat's site. It was better for him to say nothing at all and deny any knowledge or complicity than it would have been for him to start opening doors and admitting that he'd known what was in the wind. Made me think. I read it otherwise. Besides, counsellor, J. Edgar Hoover head your the FBI agrees with me. Her association with substance abusers was still the same. So WHY was Bugliosi and or the DA so obsessed with getting Charles Manson instead ? IF I was one of the defense attorneys, I would have asked Linda and most other Prosecution witnesses:1) I'm a little confused and maybe you can help us ALL understand this Helter Skelter business a little better. Who should we rely upon? I'm not even convinced 100% she was ever standing on that sidewalk nor am I convinced she wasn't inside the house (yes, I see the inconsistency). In 1968, the couples first daughter Tanya was born. Back then nashua was a small town in nh.Also i personally talked to someone who picked her up hitchiking in nh the 70s.He said she was pregnant must of been her second child. Believe it or not the closest I think I could get would be Atkins because IF you believe Kasabian she didn't kill anyone. On August 8, 1969, Kasabian and. And nothing she said could ever be used against her co~defendants.and Leslie lined up right behind her to do the same by puttin' on the crazy brainwashed actYou frequently say this even though it is frequently pointed out to you that this simply isn't the case and demonstrably so. In late 1996 Linda and one of her daughters were arrested in a police raid which uncovered some drugs and a gun. No screaming for it to stop, etc. He was a talented musician and her initial days at the ranch were filled with LSD, music, stories, dancing around and orgies. That makes Ms. Kasabian (as the key witness) a bit of pet project of mineWhat sort of things would you have done that weren't done by the defence ?There are multiple times where her testimony is not supported by the physical (objective) evidence Can you enumerate some of them ? Some people just drift into any old job. But, again, all good. I haven't been back to this thread in a couple of weeks. It means nothing more. That just may be Linda's story in a nutshell. There is no one inside. Lots of Hippies were thought of as people that stole, didn't work, openly espoused drugs, were anti authority and anti establishment, sponged, dropped children all over the place and exposed their kids to things no child should even be aware of. Dreath saidI don't believe she told the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truthThat could depend on what you suspect to be "the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Do I mean the jury should disregard it? That is o.k. He is expressing his opinion just like RH, me, you, Saint, etc. Fits her personality (disorder?). But my days of name calling with strangers are over, and I don't want to take any focus off this amazing first time effort from Dreath.:). Linda, who was found, possessing methamphetamine, avoided a jail sentence by attending drug-counseling classes. At one point he actually criticizes one of the defence lawyers for calling a witness without having spoken to them.I thought all lawyers know what they want those that matter to hear ! Or for purposes of this blog do they show an alternative narrative to what is the official narrative. I don't care if it's ten seconds, ten minutes or an hour. LISTEN Carefully, Dreath is telling US the LaBianca house was a "robbery" gone BAD.Well Dah ! I kept wondering what the relevance was. RH: Maybe like this?1. But always focusing on credibility and reliability of a witness can lead to an assumption that if they aren't reliable, that they aren't telling the truth or if they can be shown to be not credible, that whatever they say shouldn't really be entertained. I don't believe he was the masterminded behind the Hinman murder. ITS REALLY TOO BAD!! She admits to getting into the car and being struck by the body being there but the spirit not. And what of the guy that prosecuted them ? ?Everybody in this story represents the human side. They both got to live out long lives. The two split up, but reconnected when Robert invited Linda to come out to California. Retrospectively however..Linda K. is the perfect choise for examination IF you want to discover a more human side of the Manson Family StoryThat tends to be my chosen angle of approach because for me, it is a very human story, encompassing a large scope of culture, society, rebellion against it, motivation etc. I don't read her responding, "no, its ok I'll testify anyway". ?This is a girl who started breaking laws at a very young age. She's the black loving, anti-racism alternative. It would be like cutting Hitler slack.Still, I have seen in my life so so many others that I considered good folk pour a bunch of chemicals in their brains and take paths of destruction and violence. Funny how his client shortly after turned out to be the best evidence against him. Most likely a white man took his place. Sanctimonious, elitist narcissist is more like it. I give Linda credit for one thing. Remember, Al Springer testified that he liked Tex most of all in the Family. She got lucky Atkins folded, leaving her the only game in town and she skated. She said Manson supposedly announced it was "time" (seemingly out of the blue) for Helter Skelter. Dreath saidBut wait a minute Grim, Atkins never mentions this event to the Grand Jury, not a wordThere are a number of things that don't get mentioned to the Grand Jury but she mentions a few times the confusion that was afoot and let's face it, she wasn't a reporter on the scene taking in every little detail. About Nadar.You are missing the point, Grim. Manson Blog Locates and Interviews Son of Clyda Dulaney! And I find it hard to believe that Bugliosi was so stupid as to not check either, knowing that his case would be seriously compromised if it came out that LK had no valid licence.Incidentally, it was Bugliosi and Bugliosi alone that speculated that the the only reason Linda was along both those nights was because she was the only one left with a valid driving licence, being that Mary was in the clink. Both maligned by so-called democrats and liberal media with out-of-context quotes. In HS Bugliosi more or less says the same thing. He'd lose his train of thought and numerous times the Judge would ask him to put things in ways that could be understood because he didn't have a clue what Irving was on about. In 1996, along with her daughter, she was arrested for drugs and gun possession. Maybe the pity you have for Linda- who walked away free (That She blew it is her own fault)- would be better served to the people affected by what she helped do?? Dreath saidI have for the past many years looked at these crimes from the prospective of how I might have handled the defense. If Linda did in fact have a valid driver's license. Who amongst us can judge? Like any human story, it's the fusion of darkness and light and all those paradoxes and nuances that have kept it so gripping for so long. Even Susan who, if Bobby and Tex are to be believed, never killed anyone by her hand, was involved in murder directly.Secondly, a trip to see the Straight Satans directly after leaving LaBianca could have destroyed the entire Helter Skelter cover storyYou have two interesting obsessions running side by side, that HS is a fiction and that the Straight Satans were somehow involved in all this.Bugliosi would want that covered up and it was easy for him to do soIn various guises, you've implied that Bugliosi was covering up something he knew to be true. ?Then she walks and spends the rest of her live breaking the law and partying wit her own child who she breaks laws with.Yeah, all true. "I am here because I wanted to tell the truth. Now that said I happen to agree with this opinion: "The mission, ladies and gentlemen, the mission of these defendants on both nights, was murder. The Brits threw him out because he was accused of rape. When her second marriage, to Armenian American Robert Kasabian, began to sour, Kasabian and her baby daughter, Tanya, returned to New Hampshire to live with Linda's mother. You are correct, alone it is meaningless. Bob Kasabian wanted to go back to Spahn's Ranch to get his daughter, but Linda was too afraid. I will not praise Deb because she is awesome and already knows it.But no mention of LADY DANGEROUS? And for me it doesn't matter so much 'why?'. These weren't and aren't good people. The ones who actually did it and had to pay for it all say the same thing. [Kanarek realizes something is wrong but whiffs by making too many objections and making them in the wrong order. During her eighteen days testimony, she was under immense pressure. Linda married Robert Peasley when she was only sixteen-years-old. At the very least, he was an accessory before the fact in that particular crime. "It's a different world and it's not even the same ocean." The price for everyone else was horrific. Add steady hard drugs and food deprivation= a group of absolute savagesDon't waste your tears for Linda and Leslie. I believe, in fact I know, others were present when he was killed who were never even charged. Dreath saidAt what price, my friend? She need only repeat his words. Manson Mythos saidif you believe what is written in the Guinn book, while she didn't say Kasabian engaged in any violent acts, she claims she didn't do any of what she said on the stand. The Manson family threatened to kill her if she testified. Sandy Good said that on a talk show she was on with George and Patti and I think Bugs might have been there too.Thanks though. "That Bugliosi doesn't speak contemptuously about her should always be balanced by the fact that in commenting on her life at the time, what he says is often negative. She seems to have done the exact opposite of Linda with her life- which just goes to show you, even in the worst of circumstances- people can make their own fate. Neither Susan nor Linda were major league contributors to HS in the grand scheme of things.I guess we'll never know, but there are many people wondering how different things would have been had Pat never daubed "Healter Skelter" on the LaBianca's fridge.There are several occasions where he brings out testimony he doesn't need for a conviction just to make her look goodThere are more than several occasions when Kanarek brings out testimony he doesn't really need just to make her look bad. But when I compare the before with the after in Jay's death, for me there's no comparison.The question is why would Atkins leave Sharon, alive and alone, in the house to take this little stroll?Going to get a knife from Linda, struggling with Frykowski towards the front door, shouting to Tex for helpThere is no one inside. St Circumstance saidBut not Linda. That the motive for these seven horrendous murders was not money, it was not burglary or robbery. The same night, Manson instructed Linda Kasabian to take part in killing of actor Saladin Nader herself. Went to high school with her in Milford, NH. On the following day, Linda Kasabian once again drove a carload of killers around Los Angeles, finally dropping off Tex, Katie, and Leslie at the Labianca residence. I am unclear what you mean by the 'got in Parent's car' issue. I don't care if it's ten seconds, ten minutes or an hour. If she was serious about half of what she said on it, she wouldn't have tried to avoid arrest. With a father like Dean who was hitting on girls his teenage daughter hung out with, and did drugs with his own underage kid, or Diane Lake whose parents live a similar lifestyle and literally give her their permission to run around with any group of older people she wants- I do feel sympathy. Yes, if you stop at the Grand Jury he has no case against Kasabian as it's inadmissible and/or it was all he had. 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